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Teenagers So many parents of teens have said "just you wait!" But why? What are your thoughts on teens today?

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Old 01-23-2007, 04:13 PM
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Learning to drive the car.

This year ds1 turns 17 and he is allowed to get his car driving lisence.
This means that at 16 and 7 months he will be allowed to apply for and get his learners lisence to drive on the road and learn, so that at 17 he will know his road rules and how to drive.
My worry and nerves stem from not that he won't be a good driver, but I know what I and my friends were like when we frist got our lisences and peer pressure. I think though I am a good driver now.

He will be going for his manual lisence not an auto one, as they are not one and the same here but totally different, you have to prove you can change those gears correctly.

Please tell my I'm nervous for nothing and all will be well. LOL

Were you a good learner driver and have you taught your teenagers to drive or did some one else, how are they as drivers now? Any tips?
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Old 01-23-2007, 04:37 PM
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Kathy, are you more afraid of what he will be like when he is away from you and with his friends? Is he normally a responsible kid or does he seem to follow the crowd, even when the others aren't doing right? If my children misused the car priviledges, I would yank those priviledges. DH and I also had an agreement not to buy the kids a car but rather make them earn it. It seems that people, especially children, are more respectful towards property when they are the ones paying for it. What about making him pay for the gas he uses for activities that aren't school related? Besides financial responsibility, you could also make he emotionally responsible. That would mean that his grades would have to be up, his chores dones, and add other responsibilities since he is driving an adult vehicle, he should start acting more responsible. Make him first meet his responsibilities before he is allowed to take the car. That seemed to work with my kids. Of course, I was told I was mean, I hated them, and so on. However, they are both thanking me now.

I think you are nervous because you know the expense and the dangerousness of driving a vehicle. Since he isn't driving yet, you have the opportunity to get some ideas on how you will approach this. Good luck!
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:09 AM
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Hi, Kathy, I have been through this twice and you WILL survive. Fortunately in Melbourne they can't get their licence until 18, and so they are that tiny bit older. When my 2 were teens they could only get their L plates at 17, now it is 16, so they get up to 2 yrs on their "L's". I was widowed by the time they learned to drive so I took them out for steering practice then they each had a few lessons with a professional driving school before they were allowed to learn in my car. I had married dh before ds went for his licence so dh also took him for drives. I had strict rules as to when they could even have a drive ofd my car. Dd was working before she got her licence (2 days after her 18th b'day) and so had already bought a car, I think ds was 19.5 before he went for his licence and he also bought a car soon after that. We did not buy any of dh's or my kids their cars.
The insurance here is high if the kids are under 25 so I have never "encouraged" them to take our cars.
I believe it is good to set ground rules early and stick to them. The sort of things deBora suggested are what I would suggest too.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:43 AM
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Wow. Here in the US, a teen can get a learner's permit at 15 and a license at 16. I like the rules where you are better. The teen is more mature by that time he/she starts driving.
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Wow. Here in the US, a teen can get a learner's permit at 15 and a license at 16. I like the rules where you are better. The teen is more mature by that time he/she starts driving.
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times sure have changed..I got mine at 17 ..learners permit at 16....it was also that way when my kids got theirs...with an LP you could only drive with a licensed driver in the front seat with you..and they were responsible for your driving ..
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:18 PM
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I had to buy my own car so did hd, so that is what ds1 will have to do, he has a job and is saving now for it.
It's hard to describe, I'm not so worried I think about his ability because once he wants to learn about somthing he goes all out, but saying that I know for the last 2yrs he's been so into V8 supercars and he can look at a car and tell you the stats for it, that he thinks he's going for a big car and we won't let him but once he reaches 18 he can do whatever anyway, not only that the rego, insurance and running costs will be huge.
We will teach him, if my nerves hold and I WONT be like my mum teaching me LOL, he will have lessons as when going for his driving test it will look better to have had formal lessons to brush up any things we are lax on.

I know he will be glad he's not in Vic and have to wait until 18. Do you have P plates like NSW Lynne?
Our laws are changing but it doesn't come into effect until after he does his test. ds 2 will have a different set of rules for him in 4yrs

Margaret, while on L plates you have to have an open (yr or more driving) lisenced driver. A whole set of new rules coming in but later after he's appled and done tests etc.
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I think driving skills all depend on the kid. My oldest son (18-1/2) has his own car (he bought it -- all his own money) and drives too fast and recklessly. What can I do? All I can do is pray for him that he doesn't get in an accident. Of, if he does, that he or someone else doesn't get hurt and he simply learns his lesson. My youngest son is 16 and still has his learner's permit. He is a much more cautious driver than his older brother, thank God. But they have totally different personalities in every which way.

Anyway, I think that the child should pay for his/her own gas, and his/her portion of car insurance. If they are driving YOUR car and you find out they're driving recklessly, then take the car privileges away for a pre-determined amount of time.

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Old 01-26-2007, 07:45 AM
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I have a just 16 and 17 driving now. Both have bought and paid for their own vehicles, taxes, tags, gas and insurance . My DS, 16 has been driving farm vehicles since 12 so he "seems" very responsible so far driving, he evens complains about adults that cut him off, pass on right in intersections, jump at stop signs, etc. I still worry each time he leaves till he calls from destination. My 17 yr DD has been driving 2 yrs w/ no problems so far and is very cautious. That worries me more because other drivers are not. I keep repeating, "This too shall pass, This too shall pass!"
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:04 AM
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times sure have changed..I got mine at 17 ..learners permit at 16...with an LP you could only drive with a licensed driver in the front seat with you..and they were responsible for your driving ..
I wasn't allowed to drive at night with a LP no matter who was in the vehicle.

I had to buy my own vehicle as well.

For as long as I can remember my parents put some of my b-day money in a saving acct for me. By the time I was ready to drive I had enough money in the bank to buy a car. I didn't like the first car they bought me with my money. So I found the car I wanted (1977 Rally Sport Camaro) and bought it with the money I received when I sold the Mercury Zephyr. I still have my Camaro and the Dodge Dakota truck I bought next.

I've been putting some of my children's money in the bank for them. They will also give me some of their allowance to deposit.

My grandparents and parents let me drive often. My grandmother taught me how to drive a 4 speed truck when I was 8 yo. I practiced on their 40 acre farm. I can drive a tractor, dump truck, and a rollback. I like heavy machinery. I was pretty confident when I took my driving lesson.

We bought our son a go-cart for his 8th b-day. He is now 11yo & is a good driver. He can also drive a four-wheeler automatic and manual & a motorcycle. We let him move our vehicles around in the yard as well. He is a lot of help.

Our 7 yo dd can drive a go-cart and a four-wheeler. She is pretty go too & is more cautious.

I'm glad my dh agreed with me on letting them drive early. He's a city boy and I'm a country girl.

I'm teaching them the laws of the road. I want them to be familiar with them. We read the handbook when I think about it. I also refer to it when they ask a question so they will look up their own questions.

I recommend lots of practice in all types of weather.

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Teenagers are going to hate my answer.*chuckle*

My belief is that no one should have a driver's license to drive alone until they are at least 18. I really would not give a 16 year old a vehicle. I don't believe they are mature enough, pay attention enough, and they are too careless from the drivers I've seen. It's handing them a 4000 weapon.

Why should anyone have to pay exhorbitant insurance rates, the price of a vehicle and gas for a 16 year old. That money is best placed in education.

I'm not a meany, honestly!.. When my son graduated university ( he was an honor student all his school years), I handed him the keys to the car of his dreams... all paid for and insurance paid for one year. He was then on his own.

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