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Old 09-13-2005, 06:19 AM
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Hi Donna,

Congrats on your new position as Cub Master. I got my position as a den leader in much the same way that you got to be Cub Master. That was 3 years ago, and I am still learning.

Do you have a copy of the Cub Scout Program Helps for 2005-2006? If not, GET one. It has the pack meeting guidelines for each month in it. The theme for October is To The Rescue. It gives you ideas for gathering activities, prayers, games, songs, everything you need to conduct a great pack meeting. Of course it requires participation from the dens and leaders and other adult members. Your idea for a search/rescue dog fits perfectly with this theme. Hope this helps.

I have no idea on how to get the glue off the uniform! That is going to be a tough one! Good luck.

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Old 09-13-2005, 11:40 AM
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Congratulations on becoming Cub Master! My DH did this job for 2 years and he really did like it. He may do it again, when our little one is old enough for Cubs.

In our pack we kept the meetings to 1 hour or 1 1/2 at most. The boys would be asked to sit with their dens at the meetings and the den parents would keep order among their kids. (Let them know ahead of time what is expected of them!! Kids AND grownups!!)
Let parents know before the Pack meeting that they should plan to stay and listen. You want them involved. If they drop off at the pack meeting they will miss all the announcements.
Have the boys sign in with their den leader upon arriving. Our pack used to give a special honor to the den with the best Scout attendance and the one with the best parent attendance.
Open the meeting with the Den of the Month who will lead the Pledge of Allegiance, patriotic song, and the Cub Scout oath. Rotate this responsibility. Make sure you have a flag at the meeting!
After the opening ceremony, make your announcements of upcoming events, give honors/badges/whatever to those boys who have earned them, and maybe give each den a moment to share what they have been working on as a den.
If you have a program such as a guest speaker, craft, or other project, do that next.
Have the boys take home their announcement sheet on the way out.

I can't help with the glue; I'd recommend that you ask that question in the Craft forum or even in the Household Tips forum. I ruined a uniform shirt by using that glue.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:19 PM
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Thanks Kelly and barbszy!
I hope I do a good job....hey barbszy do you think your DH would take over for me if I faint from nerves and embarassment? The more I think about all the responsibility the more scared I get (mommy?). I know, I know, I'm being a big baby....
I do have the book you were talking about Kelly. I just got it last night. It should at least get me through the first couple of meetings but I'm not sure the dens will follow those guidelines so their themes may not coincide with mine. When we have a leader meeting in 2 wks I will let them know I expect it. Right now we only have two Weblos dens (Weblos 1 and Weblos 2) and that book doesn't really pertain to them. We also have 1 Bear scout and 1 Wolf (two if I can get that wolf dad to come back). As you can tell, we are a very small pack. Our townwide rally is this Thurs and our own is on Mon. Hopefully we will get a lot more kids. Last year we had 21 (no wolves). This town is not that big and there are 4 packs in it. Makes for slim pickins'.
I like a lot of the ideas you gave me barbszy. Especially the one about the kids signing in with their dens. Perhaps we can even give small rewards to the dens with the best attendence....Hmmmm...wait a minute...gotta write that down!
I like the den of the month thing too. That's a great idea. I'm glad you reminded me about the Pledge of Allegiance. That was something the previous Cubmaster never did at the pack meetings and the dad that left didn't like it.
Thanks for your help guys!
Donna Valliere
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:03 PM
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I am an Assistant Den Leader

I am an assistant den leader for my sons webelos II den. We call them a patrol, but I gather that is not official. We are very active. He started as a wolf, and we have ran his den since. My hubby is the Den Leader, so I am not the official assistant, but I have planned most all of the meetings and am always there to help.
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:08 PM
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I am also Assistant Cub Master

Hi its eco-mama again. I am also the assistant cub master. My husband is the cub master. I have been the acm since my scout was a wolf, so this is my 4th and final year. Looking forward to boy scouts but have a feeling there won't be much for me to volunteer for.

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Old 10-16-2005, 07:29 PM
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Hi Donna,
We got hoodwinked into volunteering too. I started as the assistant cub master and my husband was the wolf den leader. This started the first night we attended scouts. We have been running the pack since and this is our 4th and final year. Blue and Gold is always full of tears for us leaders, but this year is really going to kill me and my husband. It is probably past your first pack meeting but this is a general outline that we do.

Presentation of Colors
Skit (by one of the dens - usually the one that did colors)
A song or something fun, usually something that involves the boys moving around.
Cub Masters Minute - something to make them think, usually something about good turn or values, etc.
Retiring of the colors

You can change the order, we sometimes do announcements early in the meeting and sometimes not until the end.

You can find a lot of help in the Cub Scout Leader How To Book
It is like a bible! It is white and about 3/4" thick.

You can also get a lot of ideas and help from the Program helps

And do you know about all the sites for info?
macscouter and usscouts have a ton of info for meetings etc. you can also do a search on google or yahoo or whatever for ideas. for example: wolf ceremonies.

We as den leaders always made a big deal of them getting their rank badge for the year. We did ceremonies where we "painted" the cub scout colors on their face for bobcat, then for wolf they got more colors and markings they loved it.

All the other dens just kind of did a little presentation saying what it took to earn the rank.

I tell you the boys really loved getting their face painted. (indian style) and they really thought they were the stuff that night. And it didn't take much planning.

Best of luck!!!
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:35 PM
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I have a great activity you can do for this months pack meeting. Our kids went crazy over it.

It is a story and you have paper bags with things in them to feel like scary things that are in the story. You can fix up bags for each den or a couple of sets. It works better to have 5 sets so that each group gets to touch and the story can go on. You will get a big kick out of their faces. Especially the Tigers and Wolves they really think that what is in the bag is real.

This can be used at a den or pack meeting. If using
at the pack meeting, keep the boys in regular seats,
have the boys shut their eyes tightly - PUT THEM ON
THIER HONOR - station the Den Leaders at the front of
each den and the Assistant Den Leaders at the end of
the den. The Den Leader hold all body parts in a
contiainer and starts them around the den a the
appropriate time. The Assistant Den Leader makes sure
she is the last person to get each gooey part.
Parents will enjoy watching. Boys also enjoy watching
parents go through it.

A haggard witch on Halloween
Went riding on her broom.
Her old black cat she took along,
And speeded through the gloom.
She told the cat to sit behind,
But not behind so far,
He disobeyed and soon he fell
From off the broom-stick car.
Then as he fell, he cried aloud
Repenting, but in vain.
Although 'tis said he lost his head
He only lost his brain. (Pass peeled plum or wet
Then as he fell and creamed and cried
He could no more bequeath,
A landing place for him to rest
Instead he lost his teeth. (Pass popcorn seeds)
Oh down he fell between the stars
The disobedient cur.
He struck a star and left behind
A bloody patch of fur. (Pass wet cotton)
At this he grew more frightened still
And though it was not wise,
He clawed himself and gnawed himself
And scratched out both his eyes. (Pass peeled grapes)
Down towards the Earth he quickly came,
With life he soon must part.
He saw the error of his ways
And lost his hope and heart.
(Pass raw liver or canned peach half)
To Earth he crashed, the willful cat,
But little now remains.
The sexton cam to bury him
And found his lungs and veins. (Pass cooked
He looked around the gruesom spot.
The tale is nearly done.
The lungs and veins he found, and last
He found the skeleton. (Pass twigs)
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Old 10-16-2005, 09:33 PM
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I've had my first meeting (last Thurs)! And I didn't pass out!

We had an ice cream party, which the kids enjoyed. My son said the ice cream toppings were better than the last time (2 yrs ago). He also said I didn't talk too long.

We did not do well at either membership rally. The townwide one was a joke. The biggest pack in town positioned themselves in the room so that most of the people that walked in were "herded" toward their table.
When we had our own, not a soul showed up I went outside to answer a call on my cell and realized that the outside lights for the church were off! The parking lot was pitch black! Any people that might have come probably thought we cancelled it.

Due to our wonderful luck, we decided to try advertising for new member signups at our first pack meeting. That caused the pack meeting to start 15 minutes late. I ended up cutting the meeting down to only a half hour. That way the kids would have time for their ice cream.
I still managed to fit in an opening & closing ceremony and a song. Not much eye contact though...waaayyy to nervous!
The end result of the 3 rallys: 1 Tiger, 3 Wolves (no leader), and my original Webelos minus 2. If I can't convince one of the Wolf parents to be a leader, I'm going to have to let them go to another pack. The Tiger dad wants to stay in our pack even though his son is alone. I told him to see if he can get at least one of his son's friends to join so he won't be alone.

Sorry to ramble so long...had a lot to say.
Donna Valliere
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:31 AM
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Hi Donna,
We have the same troubles with recruiting. Our pack is about 45 kids strong now. DON'T GIVE UP! We don't even have a Bear Den. Same thing, no one would be the leader.

Check at the council office to see if they have any of the invitation packets. I think the program is called something like, my best friend is a scout, or my best friend invited me to scouts. The packes contains an invitation, a business card type thing to use as a reminder, and some other stuff.

Also check with your de (district executive) and request that he go to the school or schools in your area and do a boy talk. Most schools will let them. It is a small assembly where they show a short video about scouting, and get them all excited and pass out a flyer.

It is hard, I know, and it really gets frustrating at times, trying to get parents involved.

I don't know much about your area but you could probably even ask your de to make you a flyer and you and some of your scouts could hand them out (to any boys that look the right age) at a grocery store, movie theatre or a sporting event? I have never tried this but it just popped into my head. You can ask your de to have the schools pass out flyers for your pack specifically too. Schools will usually pass them out. Or maybe put some notices at some local churches.

Where do you guys hold your meetings and pack meetings?
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:36 AM
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Try acetone or fingernail polish remover. Try it on a small hem part to make sure it doesn't remove the color too.
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