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Old 08-11-2002, 02:28 PM
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dogs for kids!!!

WELL I think a doxie is a good dog!!!!! the come in standard and mini!!!! and all kinds of coats!!!!!! We have a smooth haired dog,ten years old which was great with our son who is now 7!!!!And just got our long haired one about a year ago!!!! they are REAL GOOD with kids!!!!! gentle I did LOVE the advice about the crate!!! I wish I knew about that with the older dog!!! BUT its a MUST for training!!!!!!!!! This is a pretty intelligent dog too!!! Ours LOVES TREATS!!!!! does everything included rolling over!!!!
BOY that place in Chicago is VERY nice!!!!! giving you all that stuff!!!!!
the thing with Beagles...they are good dogs but they do howl rem!!! the come in different sizes too!!!!!
GOOD LUCK with your choice!!!!!!
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Growing up we had just about every dog under the sun!. I have to say though, our best dog we EVER had was a Border Collie mixed with a total mutt Her name was Bandit. She grew to be just about 25ish 30 pounds. Not quite knee high. I had her from the time I was 6 (and my little brother was just born) til she died when I was 19. Bandit was gentle and extremely tolerant of everything. I wish I could find another dog like her. Another dog we had when I was growing up (a bit large for inside though) was Pollie. He was a St Benard, but he was a gentle giant We had him from when I was about 4 til I was in Jr High. So, either of those would be what I'd highly recommend just from experience. We had begals (hyper) and Labs (which I adored). I also had a Dalmation and a long haired Dachshund. Those are 2 breeds I would not recommend for a child. I had to get rid of my Dachshund because he was very jealous of our first child and actually bit him. One other option, Greyhound adoption. From wha I understand they are perfect for families. I think that is what we are going to do once we decide to get another dog.
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Old 08-11-2002, 03:46 PM
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My best advice would be to read about any breed BEFORE you bring one home. I worked as a vet tech for 10 years and was always surprised when people came in with their new dog and started asking questions, like how do you housetrain, how big will this dog get. Of course you need to know those things before you get a dog. Just about any breed of dog will adapt to your lifestyle, they're very good at that. I think some of the best pets I've known were mixed breeds. You might want to try the local animal shelter or a rescue group for the breed of dog you think you might like. Whichever breed you decide on, I hope you have another great experience and enjoy many happy years with your pet.

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Old 08-11-2002, 04:43 PM
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Hi Katie,
I agree with you. Right after I finished my reply, I was thinking about how the mixed breeds (so-called "mutts") that I've run across have always seemed to be just as intelligent and healthy as the purebreds. The only difference that I can see is the price. And since when in this country to we put a price on love and affection, especially with our pets? That so-called "mutt" will treat you like royalty if you do the same for it. It's all a matter of mutual respect. You feed them well, water them, train them, play with them and give them some fresh air and sunshine and they will be yours forever. That's just the way animals are. You can't get that kind of loyalty out of most people when you think about it. Anyway, it doesn't make a bit of difference what breed your dog is - when you see the right one for you, you'll know it.
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Old 08-11-2002, 06:37 PM
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I did not mention that we now have a miniature doxie...... but she is our 18 y.o. daughter's pet. I would not recommend a doxie for your son if he tends to play rough at times. Doxie's have very fragile backs. She does stay true to her name though.."Sweetie".

I would LOVE to adopt a mutt from the animal shelter. We can't due to the fact that our two sons have asthma. Their allergy & asthma specialist has put the big "NO!" to our having a mixed breed. He says that mixed breeds are not good for asthma or other repiratory problems due to their dander. Three years ago we got the boys a sweet puppy, Oreo, that was 1/2 beagle and 1/2 lab. Within 54 hours of bringing the dog home, our older son started having severe problems with his asthma. Once we found someone to adopt the dog and I was able to thoroughly clean her dander from our home, his asthma cleared up again.

So, if your son has any type of respiratory problems, *please* check with his doctors before you make your decision!
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Old 08-11-2002, 06:53 PM
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Question Which one--which one????

I showed this post to my dog and this is what she had to say.....

I've read what everyone was saying and just had to jump in with both(ah-all 4) paws too!!

My name is Katie and I live with my non-furry family (NFF)-mom, dad, DB#1-13 (dear brother) and DB#2-4 (my other DB is in the Army and only visits once in a while--but boy can he give a good belly scratch!!) I'm a Chocolate Lab and I'm 2 yrs old. I'm very inteligent (just ask me) and I behave very well (ok-most of the time). I get along real well with my NFF even the little one-although sometimes he can really get on my nerves (just like a furry brother!!). I'm real good at not hurting him -after all-he is my brother!!! I have met lots of other labs and they seem to love their NFF's alot too!! :heart. I hope that what every lucky dog you choose gets as much lovin' as I do because I know he/she will sure love you.

And that's what she had to say...

I've had dogs all my life and all different kinds. Labs are great-gentle, loyal, very smart, easy to train and would do anything to please their family. We just adore Katie. Althought some can get rather big-I've known black labs that topped 100 lbs-and they were not overweight!! I had beagles growing up and they are also great dogs-run around 35-40 lbs-and durable-a must with kids. I--strictly personally speaking here-would tend to steer away from ****ers, poodles, dashhounds and the smaller dogs-I've found them to be a little "snappy" with young kids. I know-some of you have had great success with these dogs-just my opinion only!!!

I think any "hunting" type dog is good-beagles, hounds etc. Labs are also in the "hunting dog" group. If all else fails and you can't decide on a "breed" of dog--you can't beat the good old loveable mutt. They don't get "hung up" on their blood line-they just love themselves the way they are...

Good luck and remember---any animal need LOVE- LOVE- LOVE just like people!!
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Old 08-11-2002, 07:00 PM
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Question klcrn

Was your lab hyper when she was a puppy? My parents had a black lab puppy about 2 yrs ago but she was VERY hyper!

So much so that they had to let a friend of theirs who had two other labs take her. My mother is tiny and has a bad leg.... sometimes Penney would jump on her and knock her down!

She was a very sweet puppy.....just HYPER! She was even too hyper for my two boys who were 6 & 8 at the time!

Just wondering if all labs are hyper as pups but "settle down" as they become full grown dogs.

I think chocolate labs are gorgeous!
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Old 08-11-2002, 08:11 PM
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Actually Abear93--the exact opposite!!!

We had originally wanted her for a search and rescue dog but she was SSOOO layed back-we couldn't get her excited enough to train her. A SAR dog has to have a very high "play drive"--to them searching is nothing more than playing a game! We tried to teach her to seek and she'd lay down-look at us with a look like--Are you nuts-it's hot out here!! An expensive lap dog is what she turned out to be! But we wouldn't trade her for anything.

I can come home from work in the morning (I work 7p-7a) and I have literally given her a heart attack by going upstairs and petting her while she was asleep!!!! My DH is a police officer and said that he should get a police dog so Katie could rest easier--gosh-if she rested any easier--she'd be dead!!!

We lovingly call her "Beasty Girl". She sounds SSOO ferocious (sp) when she gets wound up but all you have to do is act like you want to pet her and she turns into a marshmellow!! Let me tell you--the neighbor's plastic halloween pumpkin will NEVER try to sneek up on her again after she went wild barking at it!!!

Sometimes I wish she was a little more hyper--she'll let a total stranger walk up to the house but will go insane barking at neighbors she's seen every day of her life! Now THAT"S a great guard dog!! Go figure!!!

But really, she is a very loveable dog-our DS#3 was 2 when we got her and now he's 4 and she's 2. We have never had to worry about her hurting him (on purpose--sometimes they get a little rough just like human kids). One time when Bri was about 2 1/2 I was on the phone talking to a friend and he and Katie were playing. I kept saying--"Katie don't hurt that baby--all of a sudden I heard Katie yelp and you guessed it--Brian!!! Don't bite the dog!! Even tho she's very easy goin' I'm sure she would defend Bri if she had to.

I think almost any dog can be a good dog if they are treated well--I've know Rockwillers (sp) that would knock you off your feet (literally)so they could lick your face. A little rough on the backside but hey--I love "puppy kisses"

By the way--I LOVE the saying at the end of your post--I fits my life to a T!!
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Can I just say.....

I feel the need to clarify, since not all of the comments here about beagles have been positive ones....

Our "pup" is a beagle/corgi mix. She just passed her 11th birthday (but try telling her that!). She's playful, but not hyper. She does not yowl as some beagles are known to do. She barks only when, in her opinion, something is not right.....and she's usually right on the money about it too! She always lets us know if someone is approaching our place, and oftentimes lets us know while they're still coming down the street. She is VERY protective of our daughter (soon to be 8 ) and although their first few weeks together were a bit strained (as was to be expected), they are now the best of buddies. (I should point out that we got our dog as a "pound pup" two and a half years ago).

Now, my husband was not too wild on getting a dog in the first place, let alone getting one as old as she was when we got her. He wasn't thrilled about her barking (but soon came to realize that she only did it when necessary), wasn't happy with the shedding, etc. BUT, the dog won him over one day two summers ago, when we took her and our daughter down to the local swimmin' hole... Our daughter was wading in about knee-deep water, while the pup was off chasing ducks. There were quite a few people there, so we were keeping a close eye on our daughter. Pretty soon, this suspicious looking guy starts swimming in the direction of our daughter. Even though the pup was completely happy chasing the ducks, she sensed something was up. She looked around and saw the guy swimming toward our daughter. She didn't bark, didn't growl, didn't take a run at the guy....just walked over and sat down right next to our daughter.....and stared the guy down. The guy literally stopped cold in the water several feet from our daughter, eyed the dog for a minute then turned and swam away, never to return. My husband has never questioned the dog's presence since!!!

No matter what breed you end up with, after all the information you've been given here on this thread you are sure to find the perfect one to compliment your household and add to your family for a good long time! Enjoy! And best of luck to you in your search!!
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Hello Julie and everyone else that's given such wonderful suggestions!!

May I throw in my experiences? I've had small dogs most of my life, and the favorite ones I've had have been Lhasa Apsos. Yes, you see them with long, silky hair in dog shows, but they do not have to have that long, silky hair -- just keep it cut short! They are small dogs, extremely smart and thus easy to train, are inside dogs -- only go out to do their "business" -- love people of all ages. Just treat them gently -- gentle touching -- and they are great lap dogs. They also love to ride in vehicles and go places. Just keep a collar and leash on them if it's a young one till it's used to staying for you.

I've adopted older dogs -- i.e., anywhere from 2 to 8 years of age -- and had wonderful experiences with all. I also recommend a Shih Tzu (always forget if that's spelled correctly!). They are much like the Lhasa in temperament and again do not need the long silky hair look.

As far as cutting hair -- I got the regular Wahl people-clippers and did the grooming myself at home! It didn't take any time at all for the dogs to get used to us, and after about 1-2 weeks I began carefully and gently trimming with the clippers. Use scissors around the paws and for any knots. A good idea is a gentle brush because if it's used at least 3-6 times a week (every day is preferable and can be done while you're sitting with them on your lap or on the floor) they really get to love the attention and the way it feels. I would do a brush stroke and follow my other hand right down behind the brush, petting the dog, and they all got to love it right away.

Some other types of dogs to consider are the small terriers -- not Yorkies because they are so very fragile, though, even though they are absolutely loving and lovable. Not for kids!! I had a Skye Terrier, a Cairn Terrier, and a Sealyham/Wirehaired Terrier mix, and they were all like the above comments I've made regarding Lhasas and Shih Tzus.

The dogs I've mentioned can be picked up and loved on; weigh about 15-20 pounds full grown; are easy to travel with; accept people easily; are good protection; and just make excellent pets.

Of course, I've had mixed breeds too -- in fact, none of these were papered except one and she was a freebie! We have a Pets and People here, and what they do is adopt animals and/or take animals in from elderly or ill people that can no longer keep them but don't want them to be put down or go to the pound. In fact, we have 3 cats now because of my health, and the first cat was from them. What they do is give you a free trial of the animal for at least 30 days (or less, of course). Dogs are $55 to adopt, cats are $50. They are guaranteed healthy and have all their shots up to date, unless they are too young; and in which case, they come with a certificate for free shots and worming, etc. The price also includes spaying or neutering! Many cities and states have organizations like this. In fact, our favorite and first cat Abby was 6 years old but absolutely beautiful -- pastel calico and just as sweet a cat as I've ever seen -- and she was rescued from our local animal shelter 3 weeks before she was due to whelp (give birth) and the day before she was to be euthahized! We have such a good shelter/pound here that Pets and People go there at least once a week because they get such great pets from there! They have a kennel but because of the high supply they have people who act as foster parents and keep various dogs and cats for Pets and People. A local gal had Abby, and brought her over to visit before she would even say yes to the adoption! She is a great person and Abby took to us all right away and is still happy and healthy.

Sorry this is so long, but once I got rolling I couldn't stop! All the advice I've read on this discussion thread has been first-rate and accurate. (Oh, I almost forgot -- neighbors have a beagle puppy -- get an older one if you can that's already trained -- they are difficult to train but wonderful pets!! And I had a full-size Daschund that came to us via my German grandma and only understood German! She was a love, though, but of course could not be picked up due to their backs. But she'd sit on our laps if we were in a low chair where she could jump up or if we were on the floor, and was very loving until she died at a ripe old age.)

I wish you the very best in finding a dog, and definitely give the "Pets and People" type organizations, if there's any like that around you, a try; and even the pound or Humane Society.

Say, I thought of something -- call the vets in your area -- sometimes they have animals at their place that they've found and are so good they just don't want to have them put down. Our vet's up to 3 cats and 2 dogs now!!

Do let us know if you can what type of pet you try and/or get, and many blessings to you and your family!

By the way, the Metallica quote was great -- I forget who sent that in. See, they weren't all bad, people!! Also, Satchel Paige -- what a neat person! Ah, the old days...!!!

Blessings!
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