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Old 01-05-2008, 04:39 AM
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I have also heard that the hormones in meats and milk can cause early puberty. Same with a lot of SOY in the diet. Boys who drink soy milk wind up with problems due to the high amount of phytoestrogens in the soy. (Soy sauce is excluded from this as the fermentation eliminates the problem).
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Old 01-05-2008, 06:42 AM
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Barb, I didn't know that about soy! I will have to remember that one when my GKs get a little older.
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Old 01-05-2008, 07:14 AM
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Thanks for the advice. My oldest does ask questions but I have not gotten any serious ones yet. He was talking about getting chest hair the other day because I mentioned to him that he needed to start wearing deodorant. I just do not want him to say anything to a girl during that time and innocently hurt her feelings. He is a very sensitive child and I want to try to keep him from being hurt. I know that that I can not be with him all the time and that he will get hurt but I also want him to know that I will also be here for him if he ever needs me. I tell him all the time to come and talk to me if he ever has a problem no matter what it is. My DH is right with me but he was given a book about the facts of life and that was it. My mother had a very good discussion with me and that is what I would like to do with my oldest and youngest too. I also have to brothers that might help as well if he does not want to talk with us.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:22 PM
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Thank you so much for all of the advice. I'm taking it all in and trying to make a mental list of how to approach all of it. I wish that I could say that my Mom did a good job talking to me but she really didn't. She did talk but not nearly as much as she should've/could've. She covered just the basics.

How did you all decide to have the "talk" with your sons? Did you take him aside, take him somewhere by himself or what? I do think that my DS will approach my Dh with questions but I think that I am the one who will have to explain things seriously. We do answer his questions honestly, always have.

Are there any recommended books or websites out there to look at? I have to admit that I am not handling his mood swings in a good way. We have been at each other's throats the last few days.

I've read some stuff on the hormones in meat and other stuff. That is so scary! I didn't know about Soy products. We don't use much soy here so I think that we are ok, but, the meats and other products are definitely here.

Thanks again for helping me out here!

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Tami I can so relate to the "at each others throats" that is the time I try to pre-empt and just not buy into his arguements, "that's why the world is different we all have our own views on things" reply. This for ds and I is what I call his monthlies, as this attitude is usually gone in 4 or 5 days. As for talking about things, it works better for us to poke fun at things and try to work in an expereince that happened with our parents and us at this stage. But keep truths in there. Sitting down watching tv with dh and I when ds2 was in bed at night, or doing a dad and ds thing. Somes times just lying on the bed with him at night and discussing things in general was a good way to get all the questions and answers out there. Then dh and I would discuss what they talked about and we could keep things in the same/right direction.
What works for one is not what works for the other so, see where it takes you.

We are onto the break up of g/f and ds1 at the moment and this is so much fun ... NOT! So out come dh bad experiences with dh old g/f.
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My son is going to be 12 at the end of March. I can see different signs of puberty in him. His voice is deeper, though it still squeaks once in a while. And I've noticed the beginnings of a moustache and hair in other places (not chest or beard).
My Goddaughter's doctor told her mom that the last thing to come is the underarm hair. I'll have to keep an eye on that in my son. No body odor yet but I may start making him use deodorant to get him used to it. I have not had the pleasure of mood swings yet. Do all kids get them, boys and girls? I don't remember what it was like for me.

They took a week in health class at his school to explain to all the kids about puberty and the other thing. The boys and girls were separated for the puberty stuff and together for the second thing. I should sit down with him and find out if he retained any of that stuff. I asked at the time if he had questions but he said no.
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DH and I agreed a long time ago that he would talk with the boys and I would talk with DD about the puberty stuff. I know that he spoke with Big DS when he was about 12, on a long drive home from Boy Scout camp one time when DS was a captive audience I remember that DH told me that Big DS said, "Dad, that's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard"
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I never had "the talk" with my children. We approached things as they came along. When they asked why my friend had a big belly, I told them she had a baby inside. When they asked how the baby came out, I told them, in detail. Nothing ever came as a huge shock to them. When my DD asked what the ****oris does, I told her. She was surprised at that answer. I just kept the lines of communications open. We did take our DS aside in his room, in private, and told him about wet dreams. I always felt that if children were always in the know about things, they were never shocked. I gave the sex talk when the kids asked why God gave babies to bad people or hor God decided when it was time for people to have babies.
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If you are concerned about his physical condition you could take him to see your dr. He could do blood tests to see if there is anything else going on. Kids can start the 'rage of hormones' 2-3 years before they start showing any physical signs of puberty. The growing pains can be lessened by calcium (Tums) 2-3 before bed and a glass or 2 of hot chocolate (With extra milk) as an after school snack. Cheese sticks work too. Any extra calcium can help. Good luck!!! The symptoms should lessen about 6 weeks after they move out.
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Do you mean 6 weeks after they grow up and leave the house?
I actually burst out laughing when I read that one
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