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Old 06-14-2002, 03:42 AM
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I would LOVE to know more of South AFrica, but I can't even think of one question yet!

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Old 06-14-2002, 06:13 AM
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Questions about life in South Africa

Hi Samantha,

I have to admit that I don't know much about South Africa at all. In fact, I think Johannesburg is the only city there that I've heard of. Let's see. Questions. The first thing that comes to mind is what kind of holidays do you celebrate in your country? For example, in America, we celebrate the 4th of July and Thanksgiving. Obviously, the British don't. But the British celebrate St. George's Day and Boxing Day and Shrove Tuesday (pancake Day).

Another question is regarding your climate. I think you probably have a hot climate most of the time. Am I right? Do most people have air conditioning in their homes? The British don't because it hardly ever gets very hot here! LOL. Most Americans do have air conditioning even in their cars. Again, the British don't.

What about bugs/pests/dangerous animals? In Britain there is just one poisonous snake native to the country (the adder I think) and it's only out in the countryside. There are hardly any bugs here so no one has screens on their windows here. In America (I speak for Minnesota really) there are screens on all the windows because of the mosquitoes.

What about healthcare? Here we have the National Health Service. Do you have something similar there? What about schools? Do children wear uniforms? Do they get a long summer break like Ameican kids or similar to the British schedule where they get only 6 weeks off for the summer?

I think that's enough questions for now! LOL. I'm very curious.

It's fortunate that you have your family near you for support. I can remember when I was pregnant that I had a very hard time because I was so far away from home. It's a momentous time in a woman's life and not the time to feel stressed.

I'm so pleased to be corresponding with you and look forward to hearing from you.

Bye for now.
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Old 06-14-2002, 09:46 AM
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Great questions, Maureen!

I have lived in Bermuda (British colony - semitropical island in the Atlantic) and Argentina. So, now, you have spurred some questions of my own...

What is the economy like? For example, in Bermuda, there is no poverty, yet in Argentina, despite having a middle class, it is very small. So, you are either rich or dirt poor living in a shack.

What foods are common for South Africa? I figure you have a lot of British influences, but...?

What do people do for fun there?

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Old 06-14-2002, 10:04 AM
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Hi Jen,

Thanks!

You must have had some interesting experiences living in Bermuda and Argentina. Two very different places. Tell more, please. How long did you live in each place? Why were you there? Do you miss those countries? Which one was your favorite?

Your questions to Samantha were going to be my next ones. Great minds think alike!! LOL.

Great chatting with you. Bye for now.

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Old 06-14-2002, 10:30 AM
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Pinkie Winky Bermuda

Hi, Maureen,

First off, I am SO jealous that you live in England, and please share how you got there etc. too!

I moved to Bermuda when I was 11. My parents were divorced and my mother remarried a Brit living in Bermuda. I lived there until I was 16 when I finished my 'O' Level exams (I think they are defunct now in the British educational system - eqivalent to finishing 5th form). I LOVE Bermuda. It is one corner of the Bermuda triangle. It has a population of 60,000 people, 60% black, 30% white and 10% migrant population from the Azores (Portuguese colony off of Africa). I noticed NO prejudice with the races. IF there were any troubles, it was with the Portuguese migrants (the ones that were so new they could not speak English) with the blacks. The Portuguese tend to live a more traditional life, and 1/3 of the black population is illegitimate, so...!

The island is 20 miles long and 1 mile wide at the widest point. It has pool colored water and pink beaches.

It is considered to be the highest per capita income country in the world.

There is no illiteracy. No poverty, no welfare.

It is in the 80s in the summer, and in the 50s in the winter.

Michael Douglas' (actor) mother is Bermudian) and he and Catherine Zeta-Jones own a home there. Morley Safer from 60 Minutes has a home there too. AND David Bowie.

There are two things poisonous on the island...their caterpillars and their toads. The caterpillars have the capabilities of jumping 20 feet and when they stick you, they can paralyze you up to 6 months. The toads spit poison, and if they get you in the eyes, you are blind. There are no sharks, as the island is surrounded by coral reefs.

They celebrate British holidays as well as Cup Match (3 days in July for cricket) and Bermuda Day on May 24th.

The island was discovered by the Spanish in the early 1500s. They got their boats stuck on a lot of reefs, and assumed that Bermuda was a Devil Island, so they refused to populate it. At the time, there was an international law, if teh discovering country did not inhabitat the new land within a 100 years, then anyone could. So, it was settled by the British in the early 1600s.

I prefer Bermuda to Argentina, probably because I lived there longer...lived there during those teen years, and really acclamated to its culture.

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Argentina

Argentina was discovered by the Spanish. It and Uruguay are considered to be more European, whereas the other countries in South America are considered to be more Latin American influenced.

97% of the population is white, and 3% is indigenous. I hear the Spanish anhilated the indigenous population when they arrived. Nice, huh?

Argentina, like Australia and America is the only other country that has all types of terrain / environments...mountains, prairies (pampas), coastline, desert etc. The highest mountain in Argentina (and in SOuth America) is Aconcagua. The book and movie "Alive" is a true story that takes place in Argentina. A group of rugby players are on a plane to Chile when their plane crashes in the Andes. They are forced to eat the dead passengers to survive.

Also, Evita is one of Argentina's first ladies. My mother is British descent (her grandparents were from England and Scotland) but she and her parents were raised in ARgentina. My mother remembers Evita.

The capital, Buenos Aires has the widest avenue in the world: 10 lanes into the city and 10 lanes out. No speed limit either! There is no drinking age, no age to buy cigarettes either. Yet, they don't have an alcoholic population!

Though it is considered great if you are anorexic and tan. In fact, Argentina has the highest anorexic population than any other population in the world.

As like the US, Argentina is a melting pot too. They have Germans, Czechs, Brits, Italians and Jews living there.

Their version of Miami Beach is Mar Del Plata...and their version of Aspen is Bariloche.

Because the Italian population is so large, Argentina has incorporated Italian foods and some words in their way of life. For example, "good-bye" in Spanish is "adios", in Italian it's "ciao". Argentina's it's "chau"...pronounced like the Italian.

How did I get there? Well, after school in Bermuda (16), we decided that I was too young to go to a university, so I went to live with my aunt in Buenos Aires for a year, then started college.

It was great! I learned Spanish. I learned how to make these Argentine pastries (called alfajores) for Tea Time. I read some great books by some great Argentine authors: HOracio Quiroga, Jorge Borges...I saw some great movies...it was a great experience. And I truly believe that if anyone anywhere has the opportunity to live in another country for a year, they should do it. It changes your perspective on life.

The Argentines are very into family. And you can drop by without notice. Everyone is always so happy to see you. It's great.

It's unfortunate that their economy is so bad now. But to the tourist...it's great. My cousin and her husband took his parents, his 4 brothers and sisters with their spouses and children, plus their own two children out to dinner. $30
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Jen,

Wow!! I'm so impressed with everything you wrote. Thank you so much for all the fascinating information! I don't have time to reply properly right now but you've given me a lot to think about until I do.

Maureen

By the way, I totally agree that living in another country changes your perspective on life!
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Old 06-15-2002, 07:52 AM
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Hi Jen,

It's another day and now I have time to reply to your two different postings about your experiences in Bermuda and Argentina.

Your time in Bermuda sounds like a dream experience! I can sure understand why you say you love Bermuda. It sounds so beautiful with perfect weather and gorgeous beaches. It probably would be a perfect place except for the poisonous caterpillars and toads. LOL. Yuck! I was surprised when you wrote that there is no illiteracy, no poverty, and no welfare. How incedible. I knew it was popular with celebrities. Now I understand why. You must have hated to leave Bermuda when you were 16 and move to Buenos Aires to live with your aunt there.

What an incredible adventure it turned out to be for you though in Argentina. You got to learn Spanish and learn about a whole different culture. It's fascinating that they have no drinking age and yet, no problem with alcoholism there. I didn't know they have the widest avenue in the world and no speed limit! Scary!!
How interesting about the large Italian population and their influence on certain words. Also fascinating is that your mother is British descent but was raised in Argentina and that she remembers Evita. Incredible! I didn't know that Argentina has the highest anorexic population in the world. Very sad, indeed.

You certainly had some amazing experiences living in those two very different countries. I'm impressed with your vivid descriptions and knowlege about each place. You should write a book!

Here is the story of how I came to live in England. My hubby has 2 sisters who both married Americans. They both live in Mn. near my family. We met when he was visiting them and then continued a relationship via "snail mail" and telephone calls and visits. When we realized we were in love, we had to decide which country we would live in. Initially, I wanted to remain in the USA but he was reluctant to leave England (elderly parents) so I moved and started a new life here. I've been here 15 years.

The ironic thing is that my mother is English. She met my father when he was stationed in London during WWII and she became a "war bride". So she married an American and left England for America. I married a Brit and left America to live in England. Strange how life works out, isn't it?

Anyway, that's enough for now.

I will write a further installment sometime soon about life in England.

Bye for now.
Maureen
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Old 06-15-2002, 12:09 PM
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Hey, Maureen!

Did Charles and Camilla get married? If so, will that threaten his chance for the crown?

And I loved your story about England! How romantic!

I met my husband when we lived in California. He was Pennsylvania. We moved to New Jersey.
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Old 06-15-2002, 03:58 PM
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Hi Jen,

No, Prince Charles hasn't married Camilla (yet) but they are being seen together in public more and the Queen appears to be giving her approval of their relationship because Camilla has been invited to royal events. The Golden Jubilee was just celebrated here and the fact that Camilla was included with the rest of the royals was noticed in the news here. I'm not an expert on the rules of the monarchy but I should think if they got married and Prince Charles did become King that Camilla would not be allowed to bear the title of queen. Times have changed a lot because his great-uncle had to relinquish the crown to marry a divorced woman whereas it seems accepatable for Charles to be in a relationship with Camilla and still be in line to the throne. Who knows what the future holds though?
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