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Old 01-14-2003, 11:35 AM
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ISO sourdough starter

I'm looking for a sourdough starter that doesn't use yeast or instant potato flakes. The whole idea is to not have to buy yeast, and I don't use flakes lol!! I did a quick search but haven't had any luck as of yet. Do any of you ladies have a recipe? TIA!
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MrsManic,

This is long, but it will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about sourdough starters.

ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-gro...Starter.Doctor

It's quite an interesting article. The actual recipe is near the bottom.

Good luck!

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Sorry, I clicked on the addy and couldn't get to the site. I found it by doing a search on MSN using the words: sourdough bread starter. I don't know why the thing printed as it did. The missing part is:

rup/rec.food.sourdough/rec.food.sourdough_FAQ.Starter.Doctor

Maybe you can put it all together and have it make sense.

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No yeast in the house?
Here is a great way to be able to make bread when you don't have any yeast.:

Potato Sourdough Starter

4 c Unbleached Flour
2 tb Salt
2 tb Sugar
4 c Lukewarm Potato Water
Boil some potatoes for supper, save the potato water, and use it lukewarm with enough unbleached flour to make a thick batter without yeast.
This is a good way to make it in camp, where you have no yeast available and want fast results.
This is also the way most farm girls made it in the olden days.
Let stand a day or so, or until it smells right.
Store in the refrigerator.

You will find that your sourdough breads will have more "tang" and will rise higher if you follow this procedure:
Remove a cup (or more) of your starter from the fridge and bring to room temp.
Feed what you took out with 1 cup flour and 1 cup (or slightly less) water . Feed the remaining starter with the same before putting it back into the fridge. Let the starter do its thing. It will become bubbly and foamy.
Watch for its 'peak'.
This usually occurs 8 to 10 hours after feeding.
It is best to keep the starter warm (75 to 85 degrees).
If it cold out, leave it in the oven with the light turned on!
Make your bread during the peak ...while the starter is VERY active.
Dump the unused starter back into the mother pot.
Variation: You can add caraway seeds and more sugar to your bread before baking. YUM!
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Jeannie, You are a wealth of information on so many things..so on this bread thing, it sounds wonderful...Thanks. While I am here...what is your take on bread machines...worth the cost or should I just keep making bread by hand?

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I wasn't asked, so pardon me for just butting in!!

Janet--I love my bread machine, but it has it's limits. Truth be told, I use it mainly to make the dough. Mine has a square baking pan, so the "loaves" are huge!! I have to use my regular pans to make "sandwich" bread. But for things like garlic bread, where cutting one slice into quartes is okay, it works great!!

That being said--I still enjoy making bread by hand occassionally--it's very relaxing and theraputic. You can get a lot of thinking done while you knead lol!!
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Janet... thanks hon... I guess cooking for 50 years, and life experience plus reading and school helps, ya think? *chuckles*


bread machines have their place..I enjoy mine..but it can't do everything..... I make Italian bread and do it the old fashioned way.....but I do enjoy my bread machine...... there are those days that you don't want to go out just for bread....and in winter it's a great help......I put in the ingredients and it makes the bread! I put the stuff in the crockpot and it makes a meal! ...hot bread, hot meal... no work.....*g* If you have a bread loving family, then go for it..... you can freeze it, but I am prone to fresh bread. remember it doesn't stay fresh long because there are no preservatives.......

Some breads you just have to make the old fashioned way.....so if you find a recipe for white or wheat bread that you like..there ya go...... I use mine at least 2x a week..... my husband makes rolls the old fashioned way....see Home Made bread making for pic... I can't post it again....and they are wonderful...can't be made in bread machine.. If you can get one go fer it......only if you are going to use it.... *s*
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Mrs Maniac thanks for the advice and please always butt in..we are not that formal here,are we???lol I have checked out 2 brands so far and one was a sunbeam & the other was an Oster. when I looked at the pans..they looked small to me, so I was wondering if it would be too small for sandwiches. I might have to wait till Spring. Traveling is too hard in winter here...unpredictable weather and they just close some roads..pretty bad when there is only one road out to the city! lol

Jeannie thanks for your advice too. I am thinking a bread machine makes bread quicker than the old fashion way. I hate all the waiting on rising and punching down and waiting again. The 2 machines I saw here, said bread in less than 58mins. Sounds good to me. lol

My DS says Mom you don't need a bread machine..your 2 hands are your bread machine...I guess he doesn't realize Mom's old hands are getting stiff and achy. Alot of tendinitis for me. ugh! No one told me about this when I turned old.lol

Take care ladies and Thanks again..you are the best!

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Janet..my bread machine mixes the ingredients, then it rises, then it bakes a two pound loaf of bread...it takes 3 hours from very start to finish! Then the bread is removed from the pan to a rack and you have to let it cool at least 20 min to a half hour. I don't know how you can make bread in 58 minutes.....and have it be good bread.....
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My machine has a rapid cycle that bakes faster. I've never used it, so I don't know how good it is. Maybe that's what they meant, Janet?
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