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Old 02-05-2002, 12:34 PM
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I want to start a garden this year, but because it's my first real garden, I must admit that I am dreading the cost involved! I have no fencing, sticks, soil, nothing. So basically I am starting from scratch and would like to do it affordably! Any frugal tips for gardening out there?
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Old 02-05-2002, 03:22 PM
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if you can borrow any and all equipment until you learn to know what you like and dont like.For gardening one certainly doenst need all these eletrical gadgets all the time.But it does depend on the size of property you have. But I will say for hand tools, spend the money on well made ,designed hand tools ,less aggravation and broken tools.
My hubby found a manual lawnmower(you know the kind grandpas would use) he got it at a garage sale for $5(talk about ultimate bargain). To get a new manual one (made out of plastic-ugh) would be $100 something.
Also it doesnt use fuel or electricity and very little noise AND you get some exercise out of it!

If you can, start a compost corner.Check with your city, they sometimes subsidize plastic compost containers so you can get one for super cheap.Otherwise just do a "natural "version,ie. just pile up the stuff in an obscure but accessible section. All your veggie ,fruit,coffee,tea,grass and leaves.(no meat or dairy or fat or weeds)throw even some shreds of newspaper in. This is your own organic fertilizer spring and fall.Why pay for it!AND YOU know exactly what you are putting in...You would be horrified at what some "fertilizers" are made from.Organic and good for the earth these aint....
Dont forget parts of North America is slowly doing what Europe has been doing for quite a while.Your personal garbage gets weighed and if its are over a certain weight you get fined.And its checked for true waste.If you throw things in that could have been put into recycling or compst ,again you get fined.okay I am getting off topic.
Try and get plants you like from friends.If you end up hating it rip it out and start again.To be frugal and ecological in the garden go for perrenial plants , they come back year after year, saving you time and energy instead of running each spring to a garden place to get some Annuals that only last the season.Also all you really need to do is fuss over them in the spring initally and that is it and just keep on top of the weeds.Perrenials are also more disease and drought resistant overall.
I personally cannot be bothered to spend my time and energy trying to grow tomatoes(especially with the short growing season) and for the price one can get them in the stores.Instead we grow radishes,carrots ,beets ,turnips,various herbs and green beans.Simple stuff I guess(not an expert gardener that is fer sure).
I think in the end being frugal is also about being more environmentally aware-at least for me.
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Old 02-05-2002, 04:05 PM
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Here are somethings that I do :

Find out if your community/ neighbourhood has a seed exchange program. For beginners there is usually a charge like 5 dollars but you can get most of your seeds/ plants there.
A bottle of root hormone powder, for flowers/shrubs/ trees. Let's say your landscaping your yard and you like a bush that you have seen at a friends place. Ask them for a slip of the bush about 6 '' it won't hurt the plant. Place some rooting hormone on the end and you have a clone plant.
When buying your soil don't get it in the little bags. If you go to some garden centers it's cheaper if you bag your own. Or call a landscaping company and have them deliver it by the cubic yard. Better more soil then not enough.
Fencing? Do you really need it, or could you make do with railway ties? I use the rocks that I dig up from the garden bed to form a border around the edge of the bed. It's free. There is lots of fencing options when you think about it. Is it a fence to keep people animals out or is to be fence to just divide the spaces?
For marker sticks/ row sticks use plastic knives. Work the best, write on the handle put the cutting edge in the ground. For sticks to hold up peas and beans keep any straight long branches that might of fallen down during the winter. You can even weave the twigs together to make small arbors. Very rustic looking.

Looking at all this snow it's hard to think of gardening ideas. Hope some of these helps some. Have fun
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Old 02-07-2002, 11:22 AM
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Some suggestions for frugal gardening:

I am certainly not a Master Gardener (yet) but have a wealth of experience, including many errors, and perhaps a few suggestions might help you decide where to start:

1. Start small!!! Nothing is more discouraging than high expectations for a vegetable garden with results that don't match up. If this is your first-ever garden, keep it small and reasonable. You can always "add on" next year and beyond.

2. Most important right now is to decide where your garden spot will be. When the weather permits, take your garden hose(s) out to the spot you think you might want to use and lay out the size of the garden you think you can handle for the first year. Be sure it is a spot with full sunlight (more than 6 to 8 hours a day), fairly level and not prone to water runoff (meaning using the side of a hill might not be your best choice if you have another). Trench dig the outside area of the hoses. Strip the sod and then double dig the inside of your garden area.

3. If you don't have acccess to a tiller, plan on renting one for a couple of hours. Plan on enlisting some help with this part! It can be really tough work on freshly stripped earth, especially if you have soil with lots of clay.

4. Plan on taking a sample of your garden soil to the county extension office for analysis. Do you need more lime? Is your soil too acidic? Unfortunately, not too many of us are lucky enough to have perfect garden soil right from the get-go, but soil amendments (see the previous posts about composting, which is like found gold to a gardener) will help. No sense in buying them when a compost pile will start yielding them for you within six months.

5. Search the web for great gardening helps such as when you can plant for your zone, when the last frost-free dates are for planting tender crops, and help in deciding which are the right types of plants for you. (Example: would bush beans be best for you or pole beans?)

6. Visit your library to acquire books on vegetable gardening. These books can provide a wwealth of information for beginners.

7. Find a gardening mentor ~ someone who is proficient in vegetable gardening in your area. Don't be afraid to ask questions. I have never met a gardener yet who isn't delighted to help you with questions, offer suggestions such as how to "collar" a tomato plant or green pepper plant to help protect young transplants or why planting "go-fer" matches in the bottom of the hole for green peppers will help produce the most robust, dark green, thick-walled green peppers you have ever seen. If you're really lucky, you might encounter a gardener willing to share some of their heirloom seeds with you! (Then, please send me that person's name and address!)

8. As to what to plant, again ~ keep it small and simple the first year. Select four or five type of vegetables which are considered relatively easy to grow, such as: various lettuce types, radishes, green onions, a couple of tomato plants, a pepper plant or two, zucchini or perhaps even others. Make sure you avoid the vining plants if your garden space is truly small. Crops such as watermelons, canteloupe, winter squashes, etc., can really take up the room (unless of course you are going to plant them to grow vertically on trellises). And make plans for "second crops" of such vegetables as lettuce, spinach and others that are planted very early in the season and then again in the fall for a second crop. Very frugal use of your garden and the seeds, too!

9.Start your compost pile when you start on your garden site. In the fall when you are ready to turn under the soil for next year's garden, integrate that compost and you won't believe the difference it will make in next year's produce! If not all has turned to true compost, then load these into the compost bin first ~ they will decompose by next year.

10. Finally, research various methods of mulching and watering to find the systems that work for you. Mulching will conserve the water and control the weeds (the Great Discourager for most wanna-be gardeners).

Depending upon where you live and what your climate is during the summer months and your water availability, keeping your garden plants from dying of thirst might be a big problem.

I found a really neat answer for watering my tomato, pepper and melon plants (melon plants REALLY consume water!). They are called aqua cones and are cone-shaped plastic funnels with drip spouts which are attached to 2-ltr. plastic bottles (which have had the bottoms cut out). The entire thing is pushed into the ground up to the threads on the neck of the bottle and you simply fill the 2-ltr. pop bottle once a day for the best slow watering with no runoff. It's like a giant funnel for the water to get to the plant's roots, and best of all, you haven't wasted a drop of water! Not inexpensive but they more than paid for themselves the first gardening season in the water savings I realized, not to mention a harvest of tomatoes, watermelons and canteloups that was so big we were looking for neighbors and relatives toshare them all with!

Anytime I can answer a question, don't hesitate to contact me.

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Old 02-07-2002, 06:12 PM
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Wow Sandie...you have some great advice! I live out in the country and feel silly to admit I do not have a compost bin. I'm not really sure how to go about it either. Any help on this subject would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 02-08-2002, 06:48 AM
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Compost bins

<I live out in the country and feel silly to admit I do not have a compost bin. I'm not really sure how to go about it either. Any help on this subject would be greatly appreciated!>

No problem ~ we are all in a constant state of learning, and it's never too late to get started on this fantastic free resource!

Finished compost is an excellent soil amendment, an ideal mulch and a perfect topdressing. It is dark and crumbly and earthy-smelling ~ more commonly called black gold by gardeners.

Composting is Nature's process of decomposition. It is so easy, FRUGAL, environmentally sound and great for your garden. And it doesn't have to be some complicated or expensive system ~ just use what you already have.

Here are a few suggestions to get you started:

1. Determine where you want the compost pile to be located. It should be somewhat close to the house or garden (I have three ~ one somewhat close to the house and one each by the respective garden sites) but not so close that it interferes with children's or pet's areas. Perhaps you have a spot near a shed with a large shrub to hide it from view or even an existing fence that can form part of a side of the compost bin.

You wouldn't want it right next to the house because of critters ~ even the best systems (unless totally enclosed) might attract a critter you wouldn't want, especially if someone forgets not to throw a meat scrap in!

Also, you need to trust your "whiffer." If your compost pile is giving off an unpleasant ammonia-like smell, there's too much green material (definition later on). Suffices to say, your compost pile can stink at times so you don't want it too close to the house. (If your pile ever does stink, then you have too much green material or not enough air. Problem is simply rectified by turning with a fork and adding a generous later of straw, newspaper or other carbon-rich brown material.)

2. Next, look at possible compost bin building components that you already have. The manufactured compost containers may look nicer but they won't work any better and can be VERY expensive.

Some possible combinations that have worked for me:
a. Wire fencing and metal stakes
b. Discarded wooden pallets (see below)
c. Cinder blocks (stagger blocks for air circulation, building 3 or 4 rounds high)

As to what you can put in your compost bin or pile, here are my choices (not in any order):
1. coffee grounds with the filter paper
2. leaves
3. grass clippings
4. weeds (but without mature seeds heads)
5. hay
6. manure
7. shredded or torn newspapers
8. vegetable and fruit scraps (kitchen waste)
9. sawdust
10. haircut clippings
11. tea bags or tea leaves
12. egg shells
13. any shredded material from fall clean-up such as branches

DO NOT use any of the following:
1. animal products (unfinished meat scraps or bones)
2. grease
3. oils
4. cigarette ashes or butts

Composting is something you get better at with experience~ there is no exact recipe. All you have to do to create compost is to pile organic materials and let them rot away. Just remember that the necessary components of a compost pile are carbon-rich materials, nitrogen-rich materials, a bit of soil and most important, air and water.

Aim for a balance of roughly 1 part "green' materials (like weeds, fresh grass clippings, food scraps, even fresh manure ~ these are components that decompose quickly because of their chemical makeup and high water content. These are the nitrogen-rich materials.) to 4 parts "brown' material (such as dead leaves, straw, dry grass clippings, newspapers, which are all carbon-rich materials). Simply put, this means you should alternate each 4-inch layer of dry materials with a 1-inch layer of grass clippings or weeds.

Also add a scattering of garden soil every few layers to "salt" the pile with bacteria and fungi to aid in decomposition.

When you have your bin built or established, begin layering the above as it accumulates. Keep a saucer shape "arrangement" going in the top layer to receive moisture and remember, if possible, to fork over the contents a couple of times during the summer for aeriation. (If not possible, don't worry about it ~ it will eventually decompose all by itself!).

My current compost bins are made from discarded or broken wooden pallets, also called skids, (the kind used frequently at building sites. I had quite a few from the construction of our home). I wired three of them together at the corners and then wired this to the pasture fence to create an open-ended box. I really like this as it is high enough to keep the grandkids and pets out of it, but is easy for me to use. To get at the compost, I will undo the wire on the front pallet. And this makes a very large compost bin, too. Same type arrangement makes up the two garden bins I have, but I had to use four pallets each there.

Kitchen scraps can be easily contained and controlled by using a plastic ice cream bucket with a lid and handle. I keep mine under the kitchen sink and empty it once a day, more if I am doing some heavy duty kitchen work such as canning or freezing.

I also like to keep most of my egg shells in another ice cream bucket in the freezer (when I have room during the winter) for use in my garden. Slugs and snails and other slithery creepy things will not cross ground that has broken eggs shells on it

When you have compost that is ready to use (and if the top layer isn't decomposed, just throw this material back in the bottom of the bin and it will be next year!), try top dressing your plants and shrubs with the compost. Within a short timeframe , you won't believe the difference it will make on plants, shrubs and young trees! And whatever compost you have left after topdressing at the time of fall cleanup goes back into the garden before you till and the garden is ready to rest. This is the soil amendment you got for free while others are buying it by the bag full at the garden center.

If you're looking for a fantastic gardening book for those of us who are frugally minded, try "Frugal Gardener: How to Have More Garden for Less Money" by Catriona Tudor Erler. It's a Rodale Organic Gardening Book and this lady has more tips, hints and suggestions for frugal gardening than any I have ever encountered. She is an expert bargain hunter when it comes to gardening!

Happy composting



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Old 02-08-2002, 10:32 AM
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Wow Sandie, you are an incredible resource!!! Thank you!
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Well, thank you, Amanda, but the truth is that every scrap of information in my post was filched, borrowed, absconded, stolen or plagerized from some other source! LOL I steal good gardening ideas from anyone!!!!!

The true extent of my own gardening resourcefulness is to know what mistakes I have made in the past that I don't want to repeat!!



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